Sunday 7 May 2006
DVD Madness
Apple and the "entertainment industry", you really clock my goat.
In the USA we bought a number of DVDs. We moved back to New Zealand and would like to buy some more DVDs, and also borrow some from friends. The region code control on our iMac's DVD drive prevents this; we have to choose to activate it for region 1 (USA and Canada) or region 4 (Australia, New Zealand, Mexico, the Caribbean, and South America) and you are only allowed to switch a few times.
What's really annoying is that these artificial constraints on what customers can do with their property don't actually achieve the goal for which they were designed --- to allow DVDs to be released to different markets at different times. In New Zealand (and as far as I know, every other country outside North America) all DVD players you buy in shops have been modified to ignore the region system, and are openly advertised as "multizone". (We don't have a DMCA here so I believe that such modification, done by non-contractually-bound third parties, is legal). If the purpose of the region system was to prevent DVDs released first in the USA making their way to other markets "early", that's evaporated.
Well, there is one class of drives that's not pre-modded: DVD drives in computers. But it's easy to find and download firmware and/or software hacks to get around those. In particular, DVD-playing software such as VLC and the Xine/mplayer stack can actually just crack the region scheme cryptography in real time. That's how I played DVDs in my Linux PC back in New York.
But it turns out that one group has been singled out by Apple and the DVD industry for punishment: owners of late-model Mac hardware. Newer Macs include Matshita drives that are apparently exceptionally difficult to mod, and for which no modded firmware is available. Furthermore these drives forbid access to the raw DVD data if there is a region mismatch, so the VLC and Xine/mplayer approach doesn't work. Foiled!
I could go out and buy a multizone do-everything DVD player from a local mall for 80 NZD (about 50 USD). But then I'd have to buy a TV to plug it into. And then I'd have to buy some furniture to put the TV on. And I'd have to start making and enforcing rules about our children's access to it. That's not appealing, although we may end up going that way.
I could buy an external DVD drive for my Mac and mod its firmware, but I can't find one under 300 NZD.
I could borrow a PC and rip all my DVDs onto blank disks or a portable hard drive, but that's a pain and would potentially lead to copyright violation, something I really want to avoid.
So, Apple and the entertainment industry, consider me one extremely dissatisfied customer. The Mac's been fun but I don't think I'll buy one again.
In the USA we bought a number of DVDs. We moved back to New Zealand and would like to buy some more DVDs, and also borrow some from friends. The region code control on our iMac's DVD drive prevents this; we have to choose to activate it for region 1 (USA and Canada) or region 4 (Australia, New Zealand, Mexico, the Caribbean, and South America) and you are only allowed to switch a few times.
What's really annoying is that these artificial constraints on what customers can do with their property don't actually achieve the goal for which they were designed --- to allow DVDs to be released to different markets at different times. In New Zealand (and as far as I know, every other country outside North America) all DVD players you buy in shops have been modified to ignore the region system, and are openly advertised as "multizone". (We don't have a DMCA here so I believe that such modification, done by non-contractually-bound third parties, is legal). If the purpose of the region system was to prevent DVDs released first in the USA making their way to other markets "early", that's evaporated.
Well, there is one class of drives that's not pre-modded: DVD drives in computers. But it's easy to find and download firmware and/or software hacks to get around those. In particular, DVD-playing software such as VLC and the Xine/mplayer stack can actually just crack the region scheme cryptography in real time. That's how I played DVDs in my Linux PC back in New York.
But it turns out that one group has been singled out by Apple and the DVD industry for punishment: owners of late-model Mac hardware. Newer Macs include Matshita drives that are apparently exceptionally difficult to mod, and for which no modded firmware is available. Furthermore these drives forbid access to the raw DVD data if there is a region mismatch, so the VLC and Xine/mplayer approach doesn't work. Foiled!
I could go out and buy a multizone do-everything DVD player from a local mall for 80 NZD (about 50 USD). But then I'd have to buy a TV to plug it into. And then I'd have to buy some furniture to put the TV on. And I'd have to start making and enforcing rules about our children's access to it. That's not appealing, although we may end up going that way.
I could buy an external DVD drive for my Mac and mod its firmware, but I can't find one under 300 NZD.
I could borrow a PC and rip all my DVDs onto blank disks or a portable hard drive, but that's a pain and would potentially lead to copyright violation, something I really want to avoid.
So, Apple and the entertainment industry, consider me one extremely dissatisfied customer. The Mac's been fun but I don't think I'll buy one again.
Comments
The company name is Matsushita but the name seems to be truncated in some products like DVD drives. Matsushita sells its consumer products with names like Panasonic, Technics and National.
Matsushita was the main owner of Universal media group in the 90s so this might have something to do with these broken Matsushita products.
Also I don't think I will buy another product that has Matsushitas DVD drives.
The company name is Matsushita but the name seems to be truncated in some products like DVD drives. Matsushita sells its consumer products with names like Panasonic, Technics and National.
Matsushita was the main owner of Universal media group in the 90s so this might have something to do with these broken Matsushita products.
Also I don't think I will buy another product that has Matsushitas DVD drives.
I'm pretty sure my previous iBook from a couple of years ago was fine.
It's such a PITA and all they are achieving is annoying loyal customers.
It's another example of where buying a product (i.e. DVDs) is less functional than if you download it.
I guess the thing is that the 'entertainment industry' thinks it isn't really 'your property', you're just getting a licence to use their stuff under whatever rules they make up.
Don't worry, soon you'll have the oppertunity to download movies on demand, where you won't even have a piece of plastic to your name and each time you press play you'll have to download a fresh licence detailing whatever the lawyers drempt up the night before... enjoy!
Gids: yeah. Of course, they won't replace the media if you lose it, even if you still hold a "license", so they get to have it both ways.
Rishi: fortunately US law doesn't apply to me here. Well, in theory. The USA does like to apply its laws extraterritorially when it suits, and it also likes to spread its laws worldwide via treaties, so we may end up under something DMCA-like, but we're not there yet.
I realize I'm preaching to the choir here.
Then discovered it won't play about half of my DVDs.
Thanks, Apple.
I'd gotten used to my Linux PC just playing anything and had basically forgotten about region control.
If I squint my eyes just right I can almost see an argument for region control to stop DVD sales harming cinema sales by being available in a country first. Of course that doesn't explain why my SOAP DVDs were region 1 only.
- Colin
To be fair, they apparently will replace damaged discs (at least in the US):
"How do I replace a damaged DVD?
If you accidentally damage or break one of your Disney DVDs, you can get a replacement disc for a nominal charge of $6.95."
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/dvdsupport/faq.html#common0
kwanbis: same thing ... such an approach does not work on these newer drives.
IDEAS ??
I've worked it out now - the guys lost the war and have thought up a novel way to get us all back, and pass the blame along to the yanks!
It sucks!
http://www.metakine.com/products/fairmount/
Small Universal Binary freeware app, distributed on the same disk image as their flagship for-pay app. It seems to have been designed specifically to get around the lock that's keeping users like roc from using VLC to get at the raw data on their discs.
Near as I can tell: Unmounts the DVD, drops in some kind of abstraction layer I don't pretend to understand, and remounts it as a generic removable disk, at which point VLC is free to read it.
Lemme know how it works out; I'm upgrading soon, too.
I searched and searched for the firmware to break it, only to find that they changed the drive just on that model. Im dissapointed to say the least.
having the same problem, but I don't how fix it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? My computer let me play a region 1 once, now it won't play region 4's. And I have an ASUS (i think thats the manufacturer)
Am I able to just download something off the Net that will fix it?
Cheers,
Cassi
Mapower KC51C1 5.25" USB + IEEE1394 Aluminum External Enclosure, and
NEC 16X DVD�R DVD Burner Beige IDE Model ND-3550A.
Putting the two items together took about 5 minutes of time.
The issue with DVD drives not playing back is because in DVD movie playing mode the drive itself handles the decryption of the movie content, and the drive enforces the region encoding. Traditionally DVD drives in computers also had a DVD data mode for non-movie DVD content and it had no region checking. This is how VLC works, it accesses the data mode of the drive and deals with decryption in software, ignoring the region encoding. What Apple has on their Macbook drives is enforcement of region encoding on the data side. Effectively no more loophole. Now for some older superdrives some people released modded firmware for the drives without the region enforcement, but that has been a while. I suspect this is the beginning of more DRM to come from all manufacturers, so for now the easiest work around is an external drive enclosure and a DVD drive that is friendly to people with special needs.
Go to the following link and you'll be able to watch whatever region you want without a single problem. The website lays out all the info in simple terms and it works. I have a brand new IMAC and this works on it a treat.
http://creativebits.org/toolbox/how_to_play_different_region_dvds_on_your_mac